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:Change for Caldera OpenLinux Workstation 3.1 Will Require "Per System" Licenses
Change for Caldera OpenLinux Workstation 3.1 Will Require "Per System" Licenses
Jun 25, 2001, 17 :16 UTC (154 Talkback[s]) (31538 reads)

Caldera has changed the license on its OpenLinux Workstation product for the newest version (3.1) to require one license per system the distribution is installed on. The company will provide a certificate of license authenticity it says it expects to find on each system running OpenLinux Workstation. From the reviewer's guide to Caldera OpenLinux Workstation (5.3MB PDF):

"OpenLinux Workstation licensing has changed from previous versions. OpenLinux Workstation, as a product, is licensed per system and cannot be deployed without limit Caldera will provide a certificate of license authenticity (COLA) with each unit sold, an Caldera expects each customer to have a COLA for each system that deploys OpenLinux Workstation.

Although OpenLinux Workstation contains the Linux kernel and a variety of open source software, there are a wide variety of licenses, each with different distribution restrictions Additionally, Caldera includes some of its own proprietary software as well as other Copyrighted material."

Caldera will begin shipping OpenLinux Workstation 3.1 at the end of June.


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  Talkback(s) Name  and Date
...Goodbye, Caldera. (My opinion: you ar ...   Uhh...Err....Ummm..   
Hugh Johnson
Jun 25, 2001, 17:24:49  
Subject says it all. If corporate sponso ...   Thank God for Debian   
ac
Jun 25, 2001, 17:27:11  
Aren't they not under GPL also. Gues ...   Can they do that???   
Paul Godin
Jun 25, 2001, 17:28:55  
OpenLinux. They are getting to be the M ...   Now I see why I quit using Caldera...   
Duane C. Mallory
Jun 25, 2001, 17:32:11  
While I do see the need for Caldera to b ...   this is bad and ~ good   
Bruno Majewski
Jun 25, 2001, 17:36:33  
As a company, their failure to "get it" ...   Last nail in their coffin   
Erik
Jun 25, 2001, 17:41:51  
And this surprises who. R. Love is a us ...   Surprises Who?   
dave
Jun 25, 2001, 17:42:36  
Its their right to bundle proprietary so ...   Evolution at work...   
Brian Wheeler
Jun 25, 2001, 17:46:01  
That it will raise the price even furthe ...   Caldera Announces...   
Chris L. Mason
Jun 25, 2001, 17:46:36  
Okay Caldera, you can just go....... *** ...   WHAT???????!!!!!!!   
billybob
Jun 25, 2001, 17:47:22  
And Ransom Love countered that they were ...   Come again, Caldera?   
Svartalf
Jun 25, 2001, 17:47:37  
That's it. I thought about giving Ca ...   Caldera:=Microsoft   
Mark Veltzer
Jun 25, 2001, 17:52:26  
Yes, they can, as long as they provide t ...   Re: Can they do that???   
Ted Clark
Jun 25, 2001, 17:54:51  
That's what he said to ZDNet: "we&#3 ...   "...constantly working for the success of this mov   
Facundo Salom
Jun 25, 2001, 17:56:26  
Like there was anyone actually using Cal ...   Who's Caldera?   
Frank Hale
Jun 25, 2001, 17:57:07  
As Microsoft is so fond of saying lately ...   Should make BillG happy   
Scott M. Hoffman
Jun 25, 2001, 18:02:55  
I think the Caldera PR dept. should now ...   Say goodnight Gracie   
Brett Jones
Jun 25, 2001, 18:05:02  
Hmmm... I thought R.L. said that MS was ...   Didn't they said that MS was right about GPL&#   
james
Jun 25, 2001, 18:05:39  
Ok, I don't usually call people stup ...   How stupid   
Robert
Jun 25, 2001, 18:07:09  
When I installed linux last year I tried ...   They made a mistake   
Phill K.
Jun 25, 2001, 18:09:44  
The people that this is going to piss of ...   One less Linux distribution for MS to worry about   
Ruairi Newman
Jun 25, 2001, 18:11:28  
Please read the GPL before you ask lame ...   Re: Can they do that???   
Brett Jones
Jun 25, 2001, 18:13:05  
> I have to ask what is so special that ...   Re: Come again, Caldera?   
kws
Jun 25, 2001, 18:14:06  
They want to be, but they do not know wh ...   Caldera == Microsoft wanna-be   
Andy Tai
Jun 25, 2001, 18:16:28  
Subject says it all :~) ...   Thank God for Redhat   
Jorge GS
Jun 25, 2001, 18:17:08  
I always thought COLA stood for "cost of ...   What's a COLA?   
anonymous
Jun 25, 2001, 18:17:30  
> Yes, they can, as long as they provide ...   Re: Re: Can they do that???   
Timothy
Jun 25, 2001, 18:18:58  
The only thing I can think of is that ...   Is this b/c of SCO?   
Chris
Jun 25, 2001, 18:20:25  
Phill is right on here. Like him I also ...   Re: They made a mistake   
Joel V.
Jun 25, 2001, 18:20:51  
Shouldn't they now change the name t ...   Open? Linux   
jason
Jun 25, 2001, 18:25:10  
What a stupid model to pursue for a Linu ...   Another one bites the dust.   
Bakody
Jun 25, 2001, 18:27:34  
It isn't their right to take a bundl ...   Re: Evolution at work...   
Svartalf
Jun 25, 2001, 18:35:50  
They should be changing the name from Op ...   Caldera ClosedLinux Workstation 3.1   
Dr. F
Jun 25, 2001, 18:39:58  
> Yes, they can, as long as they provide ...   Re: Re: Can they do that???   
Svartalf
Jun 25, 2001, 18:41:56  
> As Microsoft is so fond of saying late ...   Re: Should make BillG happy   
Rob
Jun 25, 2001, 18:42:31  
> That's it. I thought about giving ...   Re: Caldera:=Microsoft   
Paul Penrod
Jun 25, 2001, 18:44:34  
This goes beyond shooting themselves in ...   Oops!   
Slack User
Jun 25, 2001, 18:49:23  
#1. Caldera can't put any restrictio ...   Such reactions.   
Brandioch Conner
Jun 25, 2001, 18:49:23  
SuSE is indeed pursuing a similar path. ...   Its legal and its a GOOD THING!   
George Mitchell
Jun 25, 2001, 18:58:17  
This is one of the greatest things about ...   If you don't like the license terms, look else   
Nobody
Jun 25, 2001, 19:09:17  
So ... as a software developer, would yo ...   This proves GPL is superior   
Art Cancro
Jun 25, 2001, 19:10:27  
Today's a sad day:( See what happens ...   WTF, die Caldera   
darkelf
Jun 25, 2001, 19:13:01  
and these jokers ain't going to surv ...   Survival of the fittest.   
d@
Jun 25, 2001, 19:23:49  
Caldera and Corel both make the ONLY L ...   Was a Quality Distro   
Matthew C. Tedder
Jun 25, 2001, 19:26:12  
Read the license over again. The per-sea ...   Re: Come again, Caldera?   
David Johnson
Jun 25, 2001, 19:26:18  
This is very different, what Caldera&#39 ...   Re: Re: Re: Can they do that???   
Ted Clark
Jun 25, 2001, 19:29:06  
> It isn't their right to take a bun ...   Re: Re: Evolution at work...   
kws
Jun 25, 2001, 19:30:49  
...to turn it back into a "freely distri ...   So...how much do you have to change the caldera di   
Sean Clark
Jun 25, 2001, 19:30:50  
What annoys me about this whole Ransom L ...   What annoys me   
Myddrin
Jun 25, 2001, 19:37:26  
>#3. Therefore, you COULD take one of th ...   Re: Such reactions.   
Mark Potochnik
Jun 25, 2001, 19:46:24  
I'd say you have the right outlook, ...   Brandioch - - I concur   
Tim L.
Jun 25, 2001, 19:49:29  
> Think it over. Would you rather that ...   Re: Its legal and its a GOOD THING!   
Rufus Polson
Jun 25, 2001, 19:57:35  
> >#3. Therefore, you COULD take one of ...   Re: Re: Such reactions.   
Rufus Polson
Jun 25, 2001, 20:01:01  
I glad someone finally had the guts to b ...   Far out   
jay hanson
Jun 25, 2001, 20:01:46  
A good critique, but maybe a little ligh ...   Re: Re: Its legal and its a GOOD THING!   
anthony
Jun 25, 2001, 20:24:21  
Licencing software is like renting a car ...   And in the end freedom.   
Mj
Jun 25, 2001, 20:44:17  
Interestingly enough I predict that Cald ...   Re: Caldera Announces...   
X Nc
Jun 25, 2001, 20:49:47  
I can't imagine that Caldera is doin ...   Cool!   
Daniel
Jun 25, 2001, 20:52:20  
and later files for bankrupcy before Chr ...   Caldera will ship openlinux workstation at the end   
xeniten
Jun 25, 2001, 20:52:52  
I've been using Caldera 2.4 for some ...   Start shoveling the dirt   
Dave A.
Jun 25, 2001, 21:04:14  
Brandioch, you hit the nail on the head! ...   Re :Such reactions   
wilbert
Jun 25, 2001, 21:11:10  
Ransom Love seems to be kind of nasty. ...   Never used it. Phew!   
Chuck Bermingham
Jun 25, 2001, 21:22:43  
It was only a matter of time before some ...   only a matter of time   
codez
Jun 25, 2001, 21:23:33  
Sorry. :) ...   Call it OpenPit Linux?   
DCMonkey
Jun 25, 2001, 21:28:22  
> I agree that Caldera is unlikely to be ...   Re: Cool!   
Chuck Bermingham
Jun 25, 2001, 21:29:00  
I see no problems with selling linux, an ...   Re: Its legal and its a GOOD THING!   
Alberto Ortiz
Jun 25, 2001, 21:51:13  
all we need it's to remove "copyrigt ...   tss, useless   
Michel Galle
Jun 25, 2001, 21:51:14  
Caldera OpenLinux is rock solid Linux de ...   Caldera is Linux for business   
Fox7777
Jun 25, 2001, 21:54:37  
i don't know why people are reacting ...   what's up with this reactions?   
Evandro
Jun 25, 2001, 21:54:56  
>I believe that Suse does the same thing ...   Re: Re: They made a mistake   
Douglas S. Keester
Jun 25, 2001, 22:09:44  
The new Caldera license apparently attem ...   Illegal bundling   
friartux
Jun 25, 2001, 22:42:05  
i have been doing a little research on ...   calderas move   
patrick darcy
Jun 25, 2001, 23:07:19  
> i don't know why people are reacti ...   Re: what's up with this reactions?   
Reaperx1
Jun 25, 2001, 23:10:29  
> Ransom Love seems to be kind of nasty. ...   Re: Never used it. Phew!   
patrick darcy
Jun 25, 2001, 23:17:13  
after reading all the responses to c ...   geesh   
patrick darcy
Jun 25, 2001, 23:26:08  
This is nothing new, a number of distrib ...   Re: Illegal bundling   
George Mitchell
Jun 26, 2001, 00:13:21  
I agree that Debian is a very nice distr ...   Re: Thank God for Debian   
Tommie
Jun 26, 2001, 00:34:30  
The bottom line is that you have to look ...   Re: What annoys me   
George Mitchell
Jun 26, 2001, 00:34:58  
> Caldera should be give a _lot_ har ...   Re: Re: Re: Can they do that???   
Steve Garcia
Jun 26, 2001, 00:55:47  
I always though cola was comp.os.linux.a ...   Re: What's a COLA?   
Levi
Jun 26, 2001, 01:38:42  
The new Caldera license apparently attem ...   Re: Illegal bundling   
Ted Clark
Jun 26, 2001, 02:00:28  
> And this surprises who. R. Love is a ...   Re: Surprises Who?   
James
Jun 26, 2001, 02:21:17  
Mr. Love has a talent for phrasing that ...   So, What's the Big Deal?   
Andrew Grygus
Jun 26, 2001, 03:35:42  
I used to like the Caldera distro when I ...   Wow, what a mistake   
Brian
Jun 26, 2001, 03:39:03  
> >I believe that Suse does the same thi ...   Re: Re: Re: They made a mistake -- Where is the IS   
George Mitchell
Jun 26, 2001, 04:25:34  
I wonder if any of the rocket scientists ...   Who can blame them?   
Dean Pannell (a.k.a. dinotrac)
Jun 26, 2001, 05:06:36  
> Phill is right on here. Like him I al ...   Re: Re: They made a mistake   
Mike
Jun 26, 2001, 05:49:59  
>> The new Caldera license apparently at ...   Re: Re: Illegal bundling   
friartux
Jun 26, 2001, 05:50:19  
it is, however, legal to take all the IS ...   Re: Re: They made a mistake   
Rick Kreikebaum
Jun 26, 2001, 05:57:03  
Que se lo metan en el culo! ...   What's the matter? I won't buy that!   
Lord_Sy
Jun 26, 2001, 06:34:12  
I'm a developer that still write sof ...   how does GPL sustain your business ?   
Ted
Jun 26, 2001, 06:55:44  
I am really glad that Caldera is trying ...   Best Wishes to Caldera   
W. Wayne Liauh
Jun 26, 2001, 07:07:58  
It would seem that Caldera is aiming at ...   Linux in the business world   
Richard Davies
Jun 26, 2001, 08:15:09  
The only requirement is that they openly ...   Re: Illegal bundling   
Ian Clelland
Jun 26, 2001, 10:18:51  
I say good luck to Caldera. The strengt ...   Good on them!   
Ashley Davies
Jun 26, 2001, 11:02:14  
I started using Linux with Slack 3.4 and ...   Re: Start shoveling the dirt   
Rich W.
Jun 26, 2001, 11:42:19  
The bottom line is that you have to loo ...   Re: Re: What annoys me   
Myddrin
Jun 26, 2001, 12:34:16  
It doesn't say that Open Linux Works ...   Re: Re: Re: Illegal bundling   
Ted Clark
Jun 26, 2001, 13:01:12  
Don't you think that someone will se ...   Honestly Now ...   
Evil
Jun 26, 2001, 13:13:08  
I wonder if any of the rocket scientist ...   Re: Who can blame them?   
Myddrin
Jun 26, 2001, 13:31:10  
This is good for Linux. More effort will ...   More Distribution will follow...   
Georges Stephan
Jun 26, 2001, 14:10:36  
I'm a developer that still write so ...   Re: how does GPL sustain your business ?   
Myddrin
Jun 26, 2001, 14:35:14  
I've never found Caldera's distr ...   Re: Was a Quality Distro   
jedidiah
Jun 26, 2001, 14:42:17  
Anyone that wants to use Linux ought to ...   Anyone knows who Caldera is?   
Greta Berger
Jun 26, 2001, 14:47:51  
Licence managers are evil. That' ...   Re: So, What's the Big Deal?   
jedidiah
Jun 26, 2001, 14:49:18  
Just what was so groundbreaking about Op ...   Re: Who can blame them?   
jedidiah
Jun 26, 2001, 14:52:00  
Though I've never tried Caldera, I h ...   Paying for distros   
Slack User
Jun 26, 2001, 14:56:39  
Fine... then provide the support and the ...   Re: Linux in the business world   
jedidiah
Jun 26, 2001, 14:56:46  
> Just what was so groundbreaking about ...   Re: Re: Who can blame them?   
Dean Pannell (a.k.a. dinotrac)
Jun 26, 2001, 15:03:47  
> RedHat, SuSE and Mandrake don't se ...   Re: Re: Who can blame them?   
Dean Pannell (a.k.a. dinotrac)
Jun 26, 2001, 15:13:57  
Caldera wouldn't be doing this if th ...   Re: Re: Re: Who can blame them?   
Myddrin
Jun 26, 2001, 15:44:22  
> > Caldera wouldn't be doing this ...   Re: Re: Re: Who can blame them?   
Slack User
Jun 26, 2001, 15:49:38  
> > Just what was so groundbreaking abou ...   Re: Re: Re: Who can blame them?   
Slack User
Jun 26, 2001, 15:58:38  
So what is evil here? I can't see a ...   Re: Who can blame them?   
Ted Clark
Jun 26, 2001, 16:02:21  
These are some of my suggestion to Calde ...   Some suggestion to Caldera!   
Tom
Jun 26, 2001, 16:08:13  
They just can't learn from their mis ...   Caldera will TRY to ship 3.1   
Brent R Brian
Jun 26, 2001, 16:31:30  
> SUSE changes the license on their inst ...   Re: Re: Such reactions.   
Charles Philip Chan
Jun 26, 2001, 16:34:57  
I have bought many Caldera distributions ...   Another one bites the dust   
The Bard
Jun 26, 2001, 16:36:47  
would reduce the prospects for Caldera&# ...   You would think increasing costs   
Bean Counting Man
Jun 26, 2001, 17:20:56  
> Caldera OpenLinux is rock solid Linux ...   Re: Caldera is Linux for business - maybe   
Paul Penrod
Jun 26, 2001, 17:44:10  
> > Stupid question. Are you old enough ...   Re: Re: Re: Re: Who can blame them?   
Dean Pannell (a.k.a. dinotrac)
Jun 26, 2001, 18:01:15  
The majority of people who write in this ...   Only 'GOOD' can come of this...   
EM
Jun 26, 2001, 18:02:28  
The fact that Caldera plan to charge per ...   Re: Only 'GOOD' can come of this...   
Myddrin
Jun 26, 2001, 18:25:38  
> I imagine Caldera will be taken to tas ...   Re: Re: Can they do that???   
Steve
Jun 26, 2001, 18:44:38  
> Caldera OpenLinux is rock solid Linux ...   Re: Caldera is Linux for business   
Dany Allard
Jun 26, 2001, 18:55:36  
For those who are about to buy, we thumb ...   For those who are about to buy..   
Steve
Jun 26, 2001, 18:56:01  
"Part of the Reason Business owners ev ...   Re: Re: Caldera is Linux for business   
Andrew Grygus
Jun 26, 2001, 19:08:52