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Journal : Lecteurs portables Ogg/Vorbis

Posté par jmfayard () le 06 décembre 2003
Bonjour cher journal,
ça commence à devenir sérieux les offres en baladeurs supportant ogg/Vorbis.

Pour référence pour plus tard, voici des notes disparates sur des commentaires/des urls/des revues... que j'ai trouvé un peu partout (slashdot, site des fabriquants, kelkoo.com, site de xiph, ...)


L'excellent Wiki http://wiki.xiph.org/VorbisHardware(...)

Les 3 lecteurs les plus clbres

1. Neuros, though I'm wondering how commited they are
to their player. Ogg support is still in beta.
Linux/OSS Friendly company
128 mo
gros, et long bouter

2. iRiver iHP-120, which I personally think is the
best. 20Gb hard drive, built-in mic, ogg playing, et
cetera. Great player.
http://www.xiph.org/archives/vorbis/200311/0033.html(...)
http://www.xiph.org/archives/vorbis/200311/0038.html(...)
449,00 euros chez fr.kelkoo.com
399.99 euros chez bestbuy.com
Prix de l'iPod 20 GO ==> 449 euros
Deux revues dithyrambiques
http://gear.ign.com/articles/457/457194p1.html(...)
http://gear.ign.com/articles/457/457818p1.html(...)


iRiver iFP-500
http://www.iriver.com/company/news_view.asp?idx=353(...)
utilise flash ? livré avec 258mo => possibilité de l'étendre jusqu'à 1 GO
semble vendu l'international
pour l'instant, ils n'indiquent pas Vorbis
239.00 euros sur kelkoo.com, mais il s'agit du iFP-590 ==> méfiance

vorbis chez iRiver
http://www.iriver.com/company/news_view.asp?idx=355(...)
Extrait : << The iFP-500 series is capable of supporting both types of codec simultaneously. >>

3. Rio Karma. It has a bit less features than the
iRiver, but it seems pretty nice overall.
http://www.xiph.org/archives/vorbis/200311/0032.html(...)
Commentaire ngatif
DD 20GO - usb 2.0
Ethernet capable <== bon ça
Pas pu trouver s'il était vendu en France
Sur Amazon ==> US$285



MAIS pourquoi Ogg d'abord ?
A nasty little AC asks:
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Whats this ogg thing? Some elitest-i-hate-the-matinstream-so-i-use-linux music format or something?

Ogg Vorbis [vorbis.com] is a free and very high quality encoding tool set. It supports variable bit rate while being very easy to use. Ogg files are generally smaller than mp3 for the same level of quality.

Let's go over that again, beter, cheaper, easier, less encumbered, that about covers it.

Software freedom confers several key benefits. There are no patents or royalties on the tools so manufactures are free to use them and you don't have to pay for their licensing. You will also always be able to find software players for any platform and don't have to wory about DRM unless the plaform itself has been cripled by it. Copyright and patent problems made players like Lame and Not Lame difficult for an average computer user such as myself. Not being able to encode my own music colection to mp3 was a real bummer. Vorbis tools is a deb package that requires no compiling and just works. Between it, abcde, audacity and gnuphonograph, your sound needs are covered.
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Et comme iRiver le dit :
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What is Ogg?

Many people believe that MP3 files are free audio software. However, the player manufacturers actually pay approximately 1.5 million US dollar royalties per year to the Fraunhofer Institution in Germany and Thomson Multimedia. Fortunately, Ogg Vorbis is a freeware for both commercial and non-commercial use. This new audio format still allows you to enjoy your music through Winamp and other standard mp3 software. It can also be burned to a CD just like mp3 files. Ogg files uses approximately 38% less space compared to mp3 files while keeping the same sound quality level as good as a CD. The developers of Ogg Vorbis stated on their website,

"Ogg Vorbis has been designed to completely replace all proprietary, patented audio formats. That means that you can encode all your music or audio content in Vorbis and never look back."

For more information on Ogg Vorbis, please visit their official website. http://www.xiph.org/ogg/vorbis/(...)
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Re: Lecteurs portables Ogg/Vorbis

Posté par deftones_chris () le 06/12/2003 à 11:43. (lien). Évalué à 1.

C'est bien qu'ils soient compatibles mais faut que les utilisateurs les utilisent et cela n'est pas gagné (en dehors de cercle des linuxiens mais ils ne représentent pas 90% des utilisateurs de baladeurs). Car beaucoup ont leurs habitudes et le mp3 leur suffit (je prends le rer et le metro et franchement je doute distinguer la différence entre les 2 formats dans ces lieux).
A mon travail tout le monde a pris le ibead et ils ne voient pas pourquoi ils changeraient. Cela doit être pareil pour beaucoup de personnes qui achétent des baladeurs et dont les marques ne fournissent des programmes pour ripper les cd qu'en mp3.