Journal : Lecteurs portables Ogg/Vorbis
Posté par jmfayard () le 06 décembre 2003
Bonjour cher journal,
ça commence à devenir sérieux les offres en baladeurs supportant ogg/Vorbis.
Pour référence pour plus tard, voici des notes disparates sur des commentaires/des urls/des revues... que j'ai trouvé un peu partout (slashdot, site des fabriquants, kelkoo.com, site de xiph, ...)
L'excellent Wiki http://wiki.xiph.org/VorbisHardware(...)
Les 3 lecteurs les plus clbres
1. Neuros, though I'm wondering how commited they are
to their player. Ogg support is still in beta.
Linux/OSS Friendly company
128 mo
gros, et long bouter
2. iRiver iHP-120, which I personally think is the
best. 20Gb hard drive, built-in mic, ogg playing, et
cetera. Great player.
http://www.xiph.org/archives/vorbis/200311/0033.html(...)
http://www.xiph.org/archives/vorbis/200311/0038.html(...)
449,00 euros chez fr.kelkoo.com
399.99 euros chez bestbuy.com
Prix de l'iPod 20 GO ==> 449 euros
Deux revues dithyrambiques
http://gear.ign.com/articles/457/457194p1.html(...)
http://gear.ign.com/articles/457/457818p1.html(...)
iRiver iFP-500
http://www.iriver.com/company/news_view.asp?idx=353(...)
utilise flash ? livré avec 258mo => possibilité de l'étendre jusqu'à 1 GO
semble vendu l'international
pour l'instant, ils n'indiquent pas Vorbis
239.00 euros sur kelkoo.com, mais il s'agit du iFP-590 ==> méfiance
vorbis chez iRiver
http://www.iriver.com/company/news_view.asp?idx=355(...)
Extrait : << The iFP-500 series is capable of supporting both types of codec simultaneously. >>
3. Rio Karma. It has a bit less features than the
iRiver, but it seems pretty nice overall.
http://www.xiph.org/archives/vorbis/200311/0032.html(...)
Commentaire ngatif
DD 20GO - usb 2.0
Ethernet capable <== bon ça
Pas pu trouver s'il était vendu en France
Sur Amazon ==> US$285
MAIS pourquoi Ogg d'abord ?
A nasty little AC asks:
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Whats this ogg thing? Some elitest-i-hate-the-matinstream-so-i-use-linux music format or something?
Ogg Vorbis [vorbis.com] is a free and very high quality encoding tool set. It supports variable bit rate while being very easy to use. Ogg files are generally smaller than mp3 for the same level of quality.
Let's go over that again, beter, cheaper, easier, less encumbered, that about covers it.
Software freedom confers several key benefits. There are no patents or royalties on the tools so manufactures are free to use them and you don't have to pay for their licensing. You will also always be able to find software players for any platform and don't have to wory about DRM unless the plaform itself has been cripled by it. Copyright and patent problems made players like Lame and Not Lame difficult for an average computer user such as myself. Not being able to encode my own music colection to mp3 was a real bummer. Vorbis tools is a deb package that requires no compiling and just works. Between it, abcde, audacity and gnuphonograph, your sound needs are covered.
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Et comme iRiver le dit :
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What is Ogg?
Many people believe that MP3 files are free audio software. However, the player manufacturers actually pay approximately 1.5 million US dollar royalties per year to the Fraunhofer Institution in Germany and Thomson Multimedia. Fortunately, Ogg Vorbis is a freeware for both commercial and non-commercial use. This new audio format still allows you to enjoy your music through Winamp and other standard mp3 software. It can also be burned to a CD just like mp3 files. Ogg files uses approximately 38% less space compared to mp3 files while keeping the same sound quality level as good as a CD. The developers of Ogg Vorbis stated on their website,
"Ogg Vorbis has been designed to completely replace all proprietary, patented audio formats. That means that you can encode all your music or audio content in Vorbis and never look back."
For more information on Ogg Vorbis, please visit their official website. http://www.xiph.org/ogg/vorbis/(...)
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ça commence à devenir sérieux les offres en baladeurs supportant ogg/Vorbis.
Pour référence pour plus tard, voici des notes disparates sur des commentaires/des urls/des revues... que j'ai trouvé un peu partout (slashdot, site des fabriquants, kelkoo.com, site de xiph, ...)
L'excellent Wiki http://wiki.xiph.org/VorbisHardware(...)
Les 3 lecteurs les plus clbres
1. Neuros, though I'm wondering how commited they are
to their player. Ogg support is still in beta.
Linux/OSS Friendly company
128 mo
gros, et long bouter
2. iRiver iHP-120, which I personally think is the
best. 20Gb hard drive, built-in mic, ogg playing, et
cetera. Great player.
http://www.xiph.org/archives/vorbis/200311/0033.html(...)
http://www.xiph.org/archives/vorbis/200311/0038.html(...)
449,00 euros chez fr.kelkoo.com
399.99 euros chez bestbuy.com
Prix de l'iPod 20 GO ==> 449 euros
Deux revues dithyrambiques
http://gear.ign.com/articles/457/457194p1.html(...)
http://gear.ign.com/articles/457/457818p1.html(...)
iRiver iFP-500
http://www.iriver.com/company/news_view.asp?idx=353(...)
utilise flash ? livré avec 258mo => possibilité de l'étendre jusqu'à 1 GO
semble vendu l'international
pour l'instant, ils n'indiquent pas Vorbis
239.00 euros sur kelkoo.com, mais il s'agit du iFP-590 ==> méfiance
vorbis chez iRiver
http://www.iriver.com/company/news_view.asp?idx=355(...)
Extrait : << The iFP-500 series is capable of supporting both types of codec simultaneously. >>
3. Rio Karma. It has a bit less features than the
iRiver, but it seems pretty nice overall.
http://www.xiph.org/archives/vorbis/200311/0032.html(...)
Commentaire ngatif
DD 20GO - usb 2.0
Ethernet capable <== bon ça
Pas pu trouver s'il était vendu en France
Sur Amazon ==> US$285
MAIS pourquoi Ogg d'abord ?
A nasty little AC asks:
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Whats this ogg thing? Some elitest-i-hate-the-matinstream-so-i-use-linux music format or something?
Ogg Vorbis [vorbis.com] is a free and very high quality encoding tool set. It supports variable bit rate while being very easy to use. Ogg files are generally smaller than mp3 for the same level of quality.
Let's go over that again, beter, cheaper, easier, less encumbered, that about covers it.
Software freedom confers several key benefits. There are no patents or royalties on the tools so manufactures are free to use them and you don't have to pay for their licensing. You will also always be able to find software players for any platform and don't have to wory about DRM unless the plaform itself has been cripled by it. Copyright and patent problems made players like Lame and Not Lame difficult for an average computer user such as myself. Not being able to encode my own music colection to mp3 was a real bummer. Vorbis tools is a deb package that requires no compiling and just works. Between it, abcde, audacity and gnuphonograph, your sound needs are covered.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Et comme iRiver le dit :
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
What is Ogg?
Many people believe that MP3 files are free audio software. However, the player manufacturers actually pay approximately 1.5 million US dollar royalties per year to the Fraunhofer Institution in Germany and Thomson Multimedia. Fortunately, Ogg Vorbis is a freeware for both commercial and non-commercial use. This new audio format still allows you to enjoy your music through Winamp and other standard mp3 software. It can also be burned to a CD just like mp3 files. Ogg files uses approximately 38% less space compared to mp3 files while keeping the same sound quality level as good as a CD. The developers of Ogg Vorbis stated on their website,
"Ogg Vorbis has been designed to completely replace all proprietary, patented audio formats. That means that you can encode all your music or audio content in Vorbis and never look back."
For more information on Ogg Vorbis, please visit their official website. http://www.xiph.org/ogg/vorbis/(...)
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I-Bead de ISM technologies
Yannick (http://linuxfr.org/~webK/(...)) aime beaucoup l'I-BEAD et nous apprend dans un de ses journaux que le support ogg est prévu début 2004.
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I-BEAD de ISM TECHNOLOGIES. Il fait :
- Lecteur MP3, WMA
- Tuner Radio
- Enregistreur de voix (en wav)
- Enregistreur de radio (en wav)
- Pleins de petits trucs sympa
Il est reconnu comme un lecteur USB MASS STORAGE et ne necessite donc aucun driver, ni sous Linux, ni ailleurs.
Il se decline en versions 128 et 256Mo....
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[^]Re: I-Bead de ISM technologies
et nous apprend dans un de ses journaux que le support ogg est prévu début 2004. ... oui mais encore une fois , personne de chez ism n a confirmé .. quand j'ai demandé on m'a dit de ne pas croire tout ce qui circulait sur internet ... enfin voila..
sinon je suis ossi heureux posseceur d'un ibead 100 , avec 256 mo .. j'addore .. enfin , j ai encore des petits problemes , par exemple les ficheirs avec des nom long et des espaces qui se lise pas sur l'ibead ;. enfin si tu utilise un script pour faire tout ca je voudrais bien une petit copie ..
et sinon tu ne serais pas au courrant d'un firmware libre , et d'un émulateur d'ibead ?